Where can I find an advanced PHP tutorial that builds a complete and real system?

I would like to see a PHP tutorial that builds a complete web application such as a portal or CMS without using a framework (preferably with PHP 5 but not a must).

Where can I find an advanced PHP tutorial that builds a complete and real system?
I doubt you'll be able to find one. It would take much much more effort in writing a tutorial then actually building the application, while building the actual application is much more (potentially) profitable.





And anyway, this is not a very effective way of learning, IMHO. What you should do instead is, learn the basic, create small sites / applications, then gradually expand them to bigger ones.





Once you get enough knowledge of the language, it doesn't really matter what type and what size of application you are building, you'll be able to do it, as long as you can afford the required time and effort.





Of course along the way you may find problems that you can't solve, but being such a popular language, you'll be able to easily get help from other PHP programmers.





So my advice:


- first learn enough the basic of the language


- then start implementing yourself, starting from small applications


- ask for help when you come across specific problems. The more problems you get, the more you learn.
Reply:You're asking for a lot with that one! I recommend a book called Advanced PHP by George Schlossnagle. It'll run you through all the various concepts and theories of approaching such a big system else you'll find yourself in over your head before you know it without a pre-established framework, such as the Zend Framework which comes highly recommended from me.





Adam @ http://www.talkphp.com/
Reply:I strongly recomend you getting a book





this one in particular





http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksea...





it teachs you , focusing on finishing a whole system project





cheers